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done by a john mccain republican surrogate named mitt romney. >> inside a campaign, what do you get on the inside that we don't get on the outside because you're doing your own polling? >> you see the widest array of polls. you look at mason dixon that came out yesterday. you take that apart, it's close to the internal polls. it shows that john mccain is leading in the states that he's got to lead in. we're going to pick up pennsylvania. we have a good shot in virginia, new hampshire, new mexico, nevada, that's the pathway to victory for john mccain. we're excited. we're hoping to see a lot of people out there in chicago on election night with barack obama experiencing a long, cold night, that john mccain won. >> it's nice he wishes physical discomfort on his enemies. but notice what exactly he was so confidently predicting there. the day before the election in 2008, it was mitt romney. these were his predictions for states that john mccain was definitely going to win. >> john mccain is leading in the states he's got to lead in like ohio and florida. we'll pick up pennsylvania. we t
, ed. this moment really reminds me of that moment in 2008 when john mccain had his crazy reaction to the economic crash and wanted to suspend his campaign and go back to washington and looked like he doesn't understand what was at stake. mitt romney looked ridiculous at that rally today. he was talking about cleaning up a football field of rubbiage. and i think it's civilly when you can't play politics. right now, we're having a debate over the future of our society. and things like this disaster relief are really quite pertinent. so it's not that he can't campaign, but go out there and take questions about what you want to do with fema. go out and there and defend your me first, dif involve to the states attitude. but he's scared and e he won't do it. >> this storm really seems to have taken the shirts off a lot of politicians. what we're really making of all of this, here's chris christie in a news conference before the storm yesterday. >> i should call him directly at the white house and he was going to be there and i should just not worry about dealing with anybody else, to ca
event of the day in a county that senator john mccain won in 2008 with 60% of the vote. kristen welker is traveling with the president. she joins us now. as i mentioned, lima, 60% of that vote went to john mccain. is the president tailoring his message different than what we heard today, kristen? >> reporter: good afternoon, tamron. i think we will hear a similar message in lima we heard during the president's first two stops today. he's talking about the fact he had improvements and the latest unemployment report to make that argument, but he's really focusing on the auto bailout, the auto industry specifically slamming mitt romney for his recent claims that jeep is shipping jobs to china. the president said the companies themselves have told governor romney to knock it off. it's worth noting that papers in this area have come out and said that those claims are false. the romney campaign continues to stand by their ad that says the auto bailout will lead it to shipping jobs overseas. that's the big focus today. why? it's an issue that resonates with the voters here's in ohio. one out
play you something that john mccain said today. he was in ohio supporting the gop senate candidate but said very nasty words about the president and the 9/11 libya attack. take a listen to this. >> this president is either engaged in a massive cover-up concealing from the american people or is so grossly incompetent that he's not qualified to be the commander in chief of our armed forces. >> karen, like many of us, we respect mr. mccain's service to this nation both politically and militarily, but is it really appropriate on a day like this to start giving a commentary about the president of the united states in those tones? >> and also it's just very disappointing, martin. i think this is the complete political transformation of john mccain that we've seen. i used -- like you, i have had great respect for john mccain and he knows as well as anyone, and condoleezza rice herself went out and made the point in terms of the things that happened in benghazi and that information was changesiing, th that's what's happening. you have to gather all of the information and try to put togethe
. i mean this moment really reminds me of that moment in 2008 when john mccain had his crazy reaction to the economic crash and wanted to suspend his campaign and go back to washington and really looked like he didn't understand what was at stake or what was going on. mitt romney looked ridiculous at that rally today. i mean he was talking about cleaning up -- one time he had to clean up a football field of rubbish and comparing that to disaster relief and i'm not somebody -- i think it's kind of silly when we say we can't play politics at this moment. there's always politics and right now we're having an election. we're having a debate over the future of our society and things like disaster relief are really quite pertinent, so it's not that he can't to me it's not that he can't campaign but go out there and take questions about what you want to do with fema and go out and defend your me first, devolve to the states attitude. it's a good time to have a debate about it but he's scared so he won't do it. >> you know, this storm really seems to have taken the shirts off a lot of politic
polls. what it shows is that john mccain is leading in the states he's got to lead in like ohio and florida. we're going to pick up pennsylvania. we think we've got a real good shot in virginia, new hampshire, new mexico, nevada. that's the pathway to victory for john mccain. >> here's something interesting as we know now. the president won all those states that mitt romney mentioned, tony. do you think the prediction is going to be a bit better this time around? >> it's not for -- i hope romney isn't making those kind of predictions today. predictions shouldn't be his business. it should be racing as fast as he can across the finish line. but look, campaigns are tough. this one is still really tight. a lot of these races are still really tight. and there are things that none of us know about. polls don't know what turnout is going to be on election day. that's always been traditionally incredibly difficult to predict. and that makes big differences. so we'll see. >> i want to talk about something that we are surprisingly talking about, karen. paul ryan, joe biden both of them h
me ask you about john mccain. we have recent example of john mccain, a recent example where a candidate called for an end to the campaign. he was going tocampaign. he was going to put up debates and everything else in the last election and he looked a little foolish. so tell me how that works. >> he did. >> explain. >> it's a careful balance here. when you say that you want to halt everything because there's a challenge, a disaster, an economic challenge, you better have some reason for it, something that is coming of it, and you also need to know when to restart. and that's going to be the great challenge over the next couple of days. look, the president of the united states is in an ideal position so long as the response to this disaster is well done. if there's a mess-up, as you have referenced earlier in this show, like in chicago in '79 with the snowstorm, that can blow back on the leader. but if this goes well, if the president comes off well, he gains an advantage here. and for mitt romney, the great challenge is deciding when to go back into a campaign mode and there
on mechanics. and while the romney campaign is certainly a lot better than john mccain's 2008 operation, the more this race focuses on mechanics, the better it is probably for the obama campaign. asked whether the storm could affect early voting, the president said that remains to be seen. >> we don't anticipate that at this point, but we're obviously going to take a look. >>> well, it's the october surprise. that we know. and the thing we don't know is what is exactly the impact going to be? we've got a lot of storm coverage to get to, and we'll get to that next. we'll go to point pleasant beach, new jersey. the storm is already kicking up serious waves there. we'll also head to florida. a state that knows storms well. that's where the president was supposed to be this morning opinion bmorning, but sandy forced a last-minute schedule change. debbie wassermann schultz will join us. >>> plus, we've got a slew of new swing state polls. what's this about minnesota? what do those minnesota numbers really tell us about where and how this race is tightening. >>> but first, we made a big deal
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was shut down today, what was john mccain doing in ohio attacking the president? karen finney and jonathan capehart will join me on that one, next. ah. fire bad! just have to fire roast these tomatoes. this is going to give you a head start on your dinner. that seems easier [ female announcer ] new progresso recipe starters. five delicious cooking sauces you combine with fresh ingredients to make amazing home-cooked meals. [ male announcer ] why do more emergency workers everywhere trust duracell...?? duralock power preserve. locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. now...guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. >>> we have a lot of goods here. and i know there's more coming in, and we're going to box these things up in just a minute and put them on trucks and then we're going to send them into, i think it's new jersey is a site that we've identified that can take these goods and distribute them to people who need them. >> that was mitt romney earlier today at a campaign event that he pretended was not a campaign event in kettering, ohio. in the spotlight tonight, mitt
the great john mccain on this point, when he pushed back and said, no, that's not true. >> i have been waiting this whole campaign, we've talked about this earlier, for mitt romney to show one inch of spine -- >> how about shame? >> shame or spine, whatever. there's not a single courageous statement or move he's made as a politician that i can discern, unlike his dad. he's the opposite of his dad who took gutsy positions, even at political cost, again and again and again. >> thank you. >>> coming up, one strategist is playing the role of incumbent. the other is acting like the underdog. crisscrossing the country doing a blitz of television. here is the surprise. the roles are in reverse. governor romney is acting like an incumbent, like dick nixon, obama is acting like the challenger. what's behind both strategies? >>> while everyone was paying attention to the race, the democrats have improved their chances of holding control of the united states senate. how did this happen? >>> see if you can recognize these voices from nbc's 1980 electric coverage. >> now, solid blue practically all
john mccain made a late play for pennsylvania campaigning there sunday before election day and went onto lose the state by over ten points. new nbc polls shows president obama over mitt romney. in wisconsin, president obama polled at 49% with mitt romney at 46%. in new hampshire president obama polled at 49%, mitt romney at 47% and detroit press poll and cnn poll showed in colorado president obama at 50% and mitt romney at 48%. tonight president obama has an 81% chance of winning re-election. alex cwagner, so mike bloomberg somehow finally made up his mind. everyone is focused on the climate change. in that article he mentions the pez's position on abortion and the health care law. so this isn't just this week. this is something that mayor bloomberg has been thinking about for some time and it is coming as the president finished the bromance tour with chris christie. it is a good week for the president. >> when you read the mayor's reasons, what was he waiting for. there wasn't a single thing that he was in line for? >> it seems to me that he is someone who has a large conception on
was at john mccain's birthday party. you have those pictures of him enjoying -- they were playing the guitar and hanging out and then his administration's really horrible response which is ironic because george w. bush's brother, jeb bush, is still popular in florida because of the ee fish ensee with which he would handle florida and a lot of the reason that he is still popular in that state. >> explain the connection between jeb and president obama. >> and president obama very rightly has hired the hurricane spoon guy that jeb bush used in his administration. he was always considered nonpartisan and he was somebody who made jeb look really good and now he's working for fema. he's heading fema for barack obama. >> let's go back to james warren. the question now on the table, here we are the monday before the election, a week out now, it seems to me it's not exactly a time out. for the president is it's a chance to be an executive and for romney to show prudence and recognition as a challenger to the president, not as a president. >> one of his problems is going to be if, in fact, the media i
either for john mccain or barack obama in 2008. one entire side of the voting population in this upcoming election is the portion of our country that lives on the edge. as we continue to cope with and rescue people from and now recover bodies from, the impact of this one storm on the most populated part of america's coastline today, the governor of new york state has been again and again trying to draw people's attention to this not being just one event, but a challenge for the whole country that events like this might now be happening with increased frequency. not just in new york, but in all of these heavily populated places, that before now had a fairly predictable relationship with the body of water, with the ocean, that they abut. what is that predictability? that balanced and expectation, developed over the past couple of centuries, and these cities on the water is now over. mostly this gets talked about in terms of the people denying that climate change is a real thing, and big talk about whether we should try to stop climate change and global warming. but that may be getting resol
in pennsylvania. pennsylvania has been fool's gold for years. john mccain went there at the end of the campaign last time. george w. bush went there at the end of the campaign in 2004. in the end, i think, they can't crack ohio and because they can't crack ohio, they've got to look somewhere else. they are looking are to pennsylvania, minnesota. i don't think they are going to win either of those states. >> now, the campaign's closing argument, we keep talking about closing arguments but they sound very similar to the opening arguments. listen to this. >> i'll lead america to a better place. this is not a time for america to settle. we're four days away from a fresh start. four days away from the fresh day of a new beginning. >> america has always done best when everybody has a fair shot and everybody is doing their fair share and everybody is playing by the same rules. that's what we believe. that's why you elected me in 2008 and that's why i'm running for second term as president of the united states of america. >> so we're still basically talking about fairness and about a new direction? >>
to bet he hasn't won, that he can't carry ohio, so he has to go to pennsylvania as john mccain did, as other republicans have over the last 12, 20 years, and they never carried the state. >> so why -- with that number, and the -- with the polling that has taken place in pennsylvania, what message is out there that gives the romney camp the idea they can win pennsylvania? why would they waste days in pennsylvania and not ohio and florida? >> i think they're worried that they can't crack ohio. the president went out there, defined mitt romney in the summer, mitt romney made some progress after that first debate, but ohio settled back down around where it was, i think really five or six points in the president's favor. so they have this dishonest ad on saying jeep is going to ship its jobs to china. and the great irony of that ad, by the way, in a news broadcast in ohio, you can see 22 consecutive political ads, the newscasters says romney has a fake ad about jobs being shipped to china. let's go to commercial break and you see the ad. so the ad is preemptively denounced. >> what abou
to obama, iowa is a state where romney will have his best gains in the country where john mccain didn't in 2008. this was a 10 or 11 point race in 2008. now two, three, four would be a lot for obama. you can go back to 2004, bush won a squeaker. in 2000 gore won it by 4,000. iowa is two states. we say it's a progressive tradition. there's a ton of social conservative, religious social conservatives in western iowa and there's also a lot of these white working class middle class voters as a demo brafic have turned hard on obama across the country. iowa, they are particularly pronounced in that state. a lot more for romney to work with. your point is key, i mentioned this last week on the show. in the 1980s iowa was an exception. the national economy was strong. farm economy collapsed in iowa and iowa took it out on george bush sr. we might see the opposite where the economy is weak in a lot of places but stronger in iowa. >> iowa voted for revenge. interesting. >> great reason to vote. >> to your point that's why the social consciences that's why mike huckabee and rick santorum do wel
-up, too, this is a different candidate than four years ago. this is not john mccain, this is mitt romney. when it comes to on the ground activities, that's the first fact to remember. if you look at poll after poll, republicans and conservatives are excited about their nominee, especially after his performance at the debates. that's the first step. second step is that some of the best veterans in our party at the rnc with rick wily, at the romney campaign are running the ground efforts. it's a vanity statistic to say how many paid staff you have in the state. that's important, but also important is the enthusiasm and who is managing it. if you talk to the obama people. i was in texas asking obama people involved in the ground game there. is it the same feeling as in 2008? this is not the same. >> based on early numbers we are seeing in terms of relatively voting, whether it's ohio, iowa, here in florida, if we are using early voting as a gauge for enthusiasm, imperical evidence would suggest the president has a substantial advantage. >> you're right, but it's the benchmark. what republic
in florida who voted for john mccain four years ago. he is actually voting for president obama this time around because of his views on foreign policy. he told me the one thing that has annoyed him most about this whole process from both sides is the smallness of the campaign, that they have not discussed big issues. has that struck you as well? >> i kind of disagree with the premise. i mean -- here is the problem. barack obama does do big things. he passed the biggest domestic health care reform in 50 years. he caught osama bin laden. he bailed out the auto companies and refurbished them. i think there is a lot of big things going on. the rhetoric has been small at tiles, but i think there has been a lot of action, craig. >> ari melber, we'll leave it there, my friend. thanks to you. perry bacon, thanks to you. washington examiner congressional can't susan ferrechio, thanks to you as well. and thanks to all of you. but our biggest things to our friends here at wtvj, nbc 6 in miami, florida. they have played host to us today. we'll hit the road right now. tomorrow live from jacksonville,
in half. i've done some math, can you see where mitt romney makes up some six to eight million votes. john mccain lost by ten million votes, he could pick up a whole bunch of votes in the battleground states. let's go to our battleground map. we have the president winning in virginia, wisconsin is a state that just feels on the ground is something that leans toward the president. now you just give him new hampshire, and he sits at 270, that's with giving romney ohio, that's with giving romney florida. that's with giving him iowa. that's with giving him colorado. that's this issue of the battleground versus the popular vote. >> more to come from chuck todd. thank you very much. we'll be back in a couple of minutes with him. i want to get to our battleground governors in a minute. but i want to start around the table with our roundtail. i mentioned rachel maddow is here from msnbc. carly fiorina, david brooks of the "new york times," ej dionne of the "washington post." i feel like the final stretch is going to be dominated by the fight over the economy. it's what ultimately can tip tha scale
than john mccain was. there has been no engagement so there's -- there has been a better opportunity for him there, andrea. i think that's what you're seeing here a little bit and i think the obama campaign realizes they have to respond. >> and what about the des moines register editorial, we say editorials don't make a lot of difference but iowa is where barack obama got his first lift by beating the field in those caucuses back in '08. it's got to sting some. >> absolutely. it's a symbolic sting. there was that bizarre kerfuffle between the president, the white house, the campaign and the editorial board. how much did that contribute to this? i think iowa is more important to romney's math than even ohio. that's why they're trying to grab on to this to show that it's evidence of momentum. >> chuck todd, thanks so much from the white house today. and joining me to discuss the final week of campaigning, less than a week and the political impacts of sandy from the democrats' perspective is stephanie cutter. thanks for joining us. what do you do about the hurricane, lost time, lost abi
we saw a real sharp contrast between john mccain and president obama, and i think people, you know, times like this you look to your leaders and see how they hnl handle crises. i think it's not just that he's a quick study. i think he's a very steady lead leader. he's proven that time and again. it is part of being an incumbent that people in a time of crisis get to see how you handle a situation like this. i think he's done a good job. he'll do a good job and that may remind people, this guy is a good guy to have in a storm or a good guy to have in a crisis. it's not just about political study though. >> it is about political study in this calculation with respect to this election, particularly what i've been hearing from the left about how this is going to be some boon or benefit for the president. i don't think the people are looking at it in those terms. i'm certainly as a political analyst don't look at it in those terms. i think the reality of it is the president has an expectation of doing his job. that was one of the shortcomings for george bush was he did not do the job as
. at least john mccain stood up to the woman who said, obama's an arab, and bill clinton, who's flexible, a pretty good politician said we set up with sister soldier, when he thought those lyrics went too far, hip-hop. >> he thinks only mitt romney can make congress cooperate. and i think this is really a very, very dangerous idea, that unless one side gets its way then they're simply not going to cooperate. i think the public is fed up with this. i think they want congress to cooperate with the new president, no matter who it is. >> this guy mourdock and akin, they're further right than mitch mcconnell. they're going to join the demint crowd. >> they are. and i think the promises made earlier in the campaign will come back -- >> can you comment on your relatives? >> i'm the washington eisenhower -- >> i'm hoping they can join this team. they are great people as are you. great family. susan eisenhower. we'll be right back. you're watching "hardball." u sue you can fit in there? [ chuckles ] ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] around view monitor with bird's-eye view. nice work. [ male announcer ]
. at least john mccain stood up to the woman that says he's an arab and bill clinton who was pretty flexible and pretty good politician said, you know, he stood up to cystt ach achlcystt when -- >> he says only mitt romney can make congress cooperate and i think this is a dangerous idea unless one side gets its way they're simply not going to cooperate. i think the public is fed up with this. i think they really want congress to cooperate with the new president no matter who it is. >> by the way, the republicans running for the senate now, this guy mourdock and akin will join the demint crowd. >> the commitments made earlier in the campaign will come back to haunt governor romney. >> how about julian david -- >> i'm the washington eisenhower -- >> i hope gettysburg can join this team. thank you, great family. susan eisenhower. we'll be right back. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. ah. fire bad! just have to fire roast these tomatoes. do you churn your own butter too? what? this is going to give you a head start on your dinner. that seems easier sure does who are you? [ fema
voting numbers that they say shows the matching or exceeding what john mccain, where he stood at this time four years ago. they point specifically to ohio, cuyahoga county, they say, coal country, an area traditionally democratic, that they say is not going to go in the president's column this time around. nonetheless, they recognize the significance of ohio right now. they will be back there again on friday. he's going to have governor romney with him. 100 surrogates including a lot of family members, some governors and senators as they try to do that as well. to put this into language of one of the romney top advisers the polls, peter, amount to noise at this point. they still feel as confident as ever that they are exactly where they need to be in these waning days. >> isn't this a time them should be in the northwest, essentially defending southern turf, is that a troublesome time? why shouldn't that be seen as a troublesome time? >> reporter: well, i think you're right. this is all about getting out the vote and they're going to be bouncing across the country. if you noti
to the final numbers. barack obama 49.58%. john mccain 48.74%. and the focus was on white working class voters. the president doing much better here in ohio than in any other battleground state and he talked a lot about the auto industry and the largely discredited ad by the romney campaign that the obama campaign thinks has backfired on them. but he also brought up hurricane sandy which he sees as an example of everyone working together. here's what the president had to say just a short time ago. ♪ >> neighbors helping neighbors cope with tragedy. leaders of different political parties working together to fix what's broken. [ applause ] you know, it's a spirit that says no matter how bad a storm is, no matter how tough times are, we're all in this together. >> reporter: and the president also talking about ohio and how important it is and he's going to be here several more times over the next 72 hours. mitt romney too, who is going to be in cleveland at the ix center, the largest convention center in this area, and one of the things that they are pointing to is that they say they had large
a decisive victory against john mccain among women by a whopping 13-point margin. among men, by a shriver. just a single point. there seemed there was no stopping women's political momentum until we ran smack-dab into 2010. and the tea party poured into congress. there wasn't just a full stop but more like a full reversal in women's political prospects. the 2010 mid-term year was the first time in more than 30 years that women not only failed to gain seats but actually lost seats in the house of representatives. the tea party's ideological take over of congress also brought with it a regressive social agenda, wrapped inside a trojan horse of economic reform that has left us where we find ourselves today, facing an unprecedented legislative erosion of reproductive rights at the state and federal level. we find ourselves almost unable to go a week without women being treated like children who can't be trusted to make sound decisions about our own lives and bodies. most recently, the misinformed manplaining about rape, health, and abortion. >> life is a gift from god, and i think even when l
obama beat john mccain in 2008 in cuyahoga county by a larger number of votes and he won the entire state. so it's really important for cuyahoga county. but a very important place for him to run up those margins. we will see bill clinton campaign up in akron, ohio, even further north and east of cleveland. a high point in this state. >> what we talk a lot about is what we add journalists and the talking class talk about what regular americans, ohio and they're talking about. of all the people i spoke with yesterday, only one person brought up hurricane sandy. a lot of attention was paid to michael bloomberg's endorsement. the big picture, do those kinds of things resinate? do they matter, do you think? >> i think on a text tual level, the message coming out of hurricane sandy was bipartisanship. even if they're not monitoring events as closely here as they are in the east, they're getting kind of a good feeling about the president's ability to work with people on the other side of the section. and as far as mike bloomberg goes, viewish voters are important in ohio and jewish busines
to agree they have a much superior ground game than the one john mccain had in 2008 which a lot of people describe as almost nonexistent. they think they've almost closed the gap if not matched the obama ground game. the perception is it seems like it's right. the obama campaign does have a more robust operation on the ground. >> i think, you know -- >> joy ann -- >> go ahead, craig. >> i was going to say, you've got to think in a race that is as close as this one that the turn out to vote effort over the next week or so really could make the difference. >> absolutely. you look at what's going on right behind you and the way the democrats have sort of created an event, almost a carnival around voting because they rely so much on running up as much early vote as they can, this year they're adding the that, trying to cut into the republican dominance among absentee. one of the reasons republicans don't ever seem to have a ground game is a lot of what republicans do is they push for absentees and push for votes on election day. i remember in 2004 when i was working on the other side in campa
against hillary and had the war issue against her, beat her on the war issue, took on john mccain when he was really beaten down by then. and here he is facing romney who is a very tough opponent. so this is going to be a close election. they're somewhat equally matched. like one of those swords and sandals movies, though, each guy has a different weapon. they don't have the same tool kit. but one thing obama has in his tool kit, i'll go back to, is hope. you don't run for president with the name of barack hussein obama without hope. i talked to him recently at the al smith dinner, i can't say what he said, but the guy has confidence, i'll tell you that. he has confidence. something tells him he wins. i don't know what it is. it may be delusion narrary, but does have that confidence. he tells us to be hopeful, maybe this is the week he's got to have hope. like a pitcher in the seventh inning two runs back and has to put everybody out for the next three innings but has to hope the batters will come through and give him some bat. he has to hope, just like the pitcher in the seventh inning.
. this is mccain/kennedy. in 2008, when the candidates were running, john mccain took his name off the bill. it's not true it was killed by both parties. >> let's talk about what barack obama has done. he hasn't proposed a plan. one thing that comes out of the book is president obama doesn't enjoy the policy negotiations with congress. itis not his thing. >> why wuld you enjoy that? you would have to be a masochist to enjoy that. >> it's how you pass it. bill clinton did enjoy it. maybe he was a masochist. >> he was impeached. >> exactly. that's what he got for it. >> you have to get into the nitty gritty and have those policies. >> let me ask you about this. romney, we all saw him get up there and take the wood to rick perry in the primaries on immigration. you want to spend $100,000 of taxpayer money on these illegals that are coming into the country? it's what you want to do? the question is, why did he do that? the answer is clear. the incentives are to use that language, beat up and get to the right of people. if those are the incentives, why are they going to be any different? when are th
. it is this claim in this reporting that romney was in the room along with john mccain when they were getting the reporting. this is p as bad as we can imagine it being. it was connifusing and complicated. he, like everyone else, found it confusing and tough. more than anything, part of what i am yearning for from the republicans, katon, is the sense of complexity. it is hard work. there is not one single policy that impacts such a complex economy. >> there is not one single party that is going to get it done. >> i think you just framed the election for me and a lot of other people. how big do we want our government to be? you talk about increasing jobs. how big of a government can we afford. >> if it is teachers, i would like it to be very big. >> i have my sister back home that would like that also. my point is, this is the choice america is making. how big of a government, not do we want but can which afford? that gets to a liberty versus conservative argument. policies and all this other stuff gets stuff in the weeds. do we want more government jobs? that becomes a real thing. >> you do.
of them voted for barack obama. about 30% voted for john mccain in '08. >> right. >> 10% said other, voted for someone else. so the question i think is do we think that history is a guide and they will fall back on habit and vote for him again or is it -- >> break for the challenger. >> they can't do it so that's why they're -- >> i want to ask you about increasing partisanship and why that's happening. why are there fewer people who belaf like this as we go through time right after we take take a break. >>> my understanding is everyone talks about the country getting more partisan, which means there are fewer of these folks. you're telling me that's not the case? >> well, in 2008 we also ran a big study like this, a panel over the course of the election, and we had about the same level of undecided voters in 2008 that we're seeing now. >> that's interesting because all the reporting has not been that. all the reporting says, you read this every political report says fewer undecided, more deadlocked, more partisan election. >> yeah. you know, all i can tell you is that -- >> your data. >>
romney's going to outperform john mccain in a lot of states he's going to lose and a lot of states he's going to win. i think it's fair to say that the idea of the split is very possible. that mitt romney's -- sort of the sheer momentum. and there is sort of two forces at work here in this campaign, right? the obama campaign metrics the census and demographics versus joe, i think what you and i feel like we see going on in this campaign the last two weeks, which is the good old-fashioned, well, which candidate is on his message at the right time, seems to be peaking, and that's romney, right? so the two different forces are converging. and i think in the battleground states, it's left this muddy picture. but i think that's why you see in a pennsylvania and a minnesota where the campaign itself hasn't interacted very much where romney's gotten more benefit of the doubt. so there is some consistency in the nonbattleground states. >> and when you talk about split, you're talking about mitt romney winning the popular vote and the president possibly winning the electoral college. >> that's
christie are going to be doing a big rally, john mccain, marco rubio, rob portman, one big rally in ohio and then spreading out. that's going to be a big event. and major surrogate action on both sides, nobody believing anything, as we like to say, on the field. >> and very interesting last thing about romney, two stops in new hampshire within the last three days, which is kind of fascinating given -- i mean, he's closing his campaign in new hampshire, but he's also going there on saturday. interesting that they think that those, what, five or four electoral votes could be really important for them. >> one other big piece of news this morning, president obama picked up the endorsement yesterday of new york city mayor michael bloomberg, citing superstorm sandy. the independent mayor wrote an op-ed for bloomberg.com saying he'll vote for the president because of his record on climate change. and it reads in part this. "the devastation that hurricane sandy brought to new york city and much of the northeast brought the stakes of tuesday's presidential election into sharp relief. one sees cli
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